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Linus Torvalds seems to be trying very hard to make the latest Linux kernel update as boring as possible. Reading this release announcement, if we can even call it that, you'd never imagine that Torvalds was leading the evolution of software.

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dehumanizer

6 years 49 weeks 12 min 18 sec ago

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He does not want to deal with this.

He does not want to deal with this. He has clarified this long ago.
Regarding GPLv3: he does not like it, and I think he regrets choosing GPL for Linux.

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Jimbob

6 years 48 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago

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"He does not want to deal with

"He does not want to deal with this. He has clarified this long ago."

Sorry...deal with what?

I also think he regrets choosing the GPL. This is why I think he should not be such a key icon for the foss community. Torvalds has been basically saying that free software should give freedom to the distributors, including the freedom to subjugate their end users.

That is not what RMS started out to do with the free software movement.

Who do we want freedom for? Distributors or end users? I have no problem with the answer being "both" but you are not a part of the foss community if you think distributors should be free to take the freedom of their end users.

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dehumanizer

6 years 48 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago

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I mean he doesn't want to deal

I mean he doesn't want to deal with legal issues.
BTW in my opinion there are pepople who are not FSF zealots and still play a huge role in the FOSS scene. Just think about J├Ârg Schilling, Theo de Raadt (no matter what a moron he is, he still created OpenSSH and his team has reverse engineered many devices etc.)
It is hypocrisy to say that free software supporters are obliged to follow the FSF way (and this is where mine and Linus' opinions collide).

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Jimbob

6 years 48 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago

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I agree about your point regarding

I agree about your point regarding non-zealots playing a huge role foss. I would go so far as to say that you could have been more extreme. I think that zealots often actually do a disservice to free software. They are often all talk and no action. And when they do take action they are seen as too extreme and only alienate the wider community. The zealots are usually people who need a cause to fight and if it wasn't free software it would be something else.

But I am not an "Open Source" supporter either. I really don't think ethics, politics and philosophy should be put aside in favor of "pragmatic concerns" (usually meaning greater profit).

I think that freedom in software and culture is key to the evolution of humankind. If we stop treating information as property we can really start making some advances in science and technology. The corporate world (on the whole) is trying to fight against this with DRM, anti-piracy, patents etc. They (on the whole) don't seem concerned with benefits to society. Although there are some exceptions, most companies that object to the GPL do so because they feel their "right" to enslave the masses is being infringed upon.

To this end I am more inline with RMS's philosophy and am opposed to Linus Torvalds opinion.

Unfortunately, Torvalds *is* in charge of dealing with legal issues even though he doesn't want to and doesn't seem to understand (I hope) their implications. If he did understand them (I hope) he would choose the GPLv3 because he would understand that the restrictions that it brings are only there to ensure freedom for end users.

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dehumanizer

6 years 48 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago

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For a successful Free Software

For a successful Free Software movement the corporate world must be taken into account. Otherwise it simply won't happen.

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kiba

6 years 48 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago

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Jimbob: Way to go for generalizing

Jimbob: Way to go for generalizing a fricking group of people!

Often talk and no action? HAHAHAHAHAHAH!

I am a "zealot" too.

But it doesn't mean that I do no action and just talk. On the contrary, I am taking action.

Everyday, I look over and edit my wiki and finally working on my game project. The wiki and my game code are MY contribution to the free software however small their impact is.

Only free games on my wiki doesn't seem to be a problem with the world of free software.

What disservice I am doing to the community?

Don't go out by generalizing a bunch of people. That's not nice to people like me.

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dehumanizer

6 years 48 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago

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From his profile you can get there.
http://libregamewiki.org

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quakooo

6 years 48 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago

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can you give us a link to your

can you give us a link to your gaming goodness?